00:00:00: Welcome Gorillas to the first GORNATION podcast here today with a

00:00:04: really special guest Dan Rosenberg three times national champion in Israel

00:00:10: and fifth and World Cup 2019 of World Championship in Moscow for the middleweight for

00:00:16: yeah welcome happy to have you here thank you for having video

00:00:20: awesome like yeah yeah a lot of people were asking for this choose to start a

00:00:26: podcast to to present athletes more from the inside and to get to know you more

00:00:32: and we know you're from Instagram stories et cetera

00:00:35: and I'm really really happy to have you here

00:00:38: me too I really think it's a great opportunity for me to get my audience to

00:00:42: know me better and also to be a deeper part of GORNATION here yeah when you

00:00:50: present yourself to somebody somebody new you don't know what how do you

00:00:54: present yourself um so yeah that's a good question because I'm I'm a person

00:00:59: that has different skills in different areas that I I'm trying to perfect and

00:01:04: get to higher levels so I'm not doing only one thing basically I would it

00:01:09: depends on the person I'm presenting myself to if it's someone from the

00:01:13: sports field I would say I'm a professional calisthenic calisthenics

00:01:17: freestyle athlete I am training for six and a half years already I have my

00:01:21: labels for example three times Israeli champion top five in the World Cup/

00:01:27: championship in Moscow this year in the middle weight category if it's someone for

00:01:32: sports if it's someone if it's a new people new friends for example or friend

00:01:37: of friends I would say I'm an athlete but I'm also creating content

00:01:40: professionally because it's something I'm doing for you know for as a job now

00:01:45: content creating and calisthenics and I'm also playing music playing the piano

00:01:52: I was playing the drums for four years and I was playing a French horn for four

00:01:57: years as well so this also something are you like doing and yeah that's that's my

00:02:03: main things I'm doing right now that's what I would say to any person

00:02:08: that's a lot so you're interested in and many many things you seem like a really

00:02:13: interested and open person that likes to get and yeah that's so true it's

00:02:20: actually very true because I really like new cultures new people new people and

00:02:25: new stories of people that I don't know because I truly believe that everyone

00:02:29: has their own story to tell and I'm really really willing to listen to other

00:02:32: people and also to share my story you know so this is something that my work

00:02:38: made me able to do because I can travel and meet more people new people more

00:02:44: cultures new places and this is also something of very very passionate about

00:02:48: awesome like you said so much and or I think already the people they feel that

00:02:55: you achieve a lot already in your young youth how old are you training was with

00:03:02: 21 years and I think two people would be interested in where you did you get

00:03:07: there like what was maybe one starting point where you thought I want to be

00:03:12: more than average for example yeah well I've always been like active kid

00:03:19: you can say I've always always like loved like making new friends and being

00:03:25: like friendly and that's from young age in school I was pretty good because I

00:03:30: noticed I really understood that is important I can't say I liked everything

00:03:34: there I can surely say I didn't yeah but I understood why it's important and then

00:03:40: this is where I started you know to like grind and hustle for something in

00:03:45: younger ages because I don't know maybe it's something in my personality maybe

00:03:49: it's something that my parents shaped me too or maybe it's just because I was

00:03:54: lucky to be in situations where I just got to understand that if you're

00:04:00: hustling for something long term we were gonna achieve bigger things you know and

00:04:05: then this started from young age with school you can say and then I went to

00:04:09: scientific class because it was pretty good with studies and this was harder I

00:04:14: hustle harder I got really good grades actually finished the middle school with

00:04:20: 100 like out of 100 which is pretty extreme then when I went to high school

00:04:26: I started going and I still had that mindset of kind of success that I need

00:04:32: to work hard not really really into it but kind of because of the past and then

00:04:36: I understood in the four years of high school in Israel that I don't want to

00:04:40: study all my life there one of the different things I was

00:04:44: exposed to a street workout and slowly shift shifted my work to the athlete

00:04:52: career I have and not only school so I finished high school it lower average of

00:04:57: weights still good one for me but I finished it like when I was the first in

00:05:04: his bed and sit workout when and when I started the high school I was not even

00:05:09: known so this was the beginning of the serious career of mine and I think what

00:05:15: led to it is just from young younger age disciplines of hard work and knowing

00:05:21: what you want long term even if in a momentary moment you don't really want

00:05:26: it after 1 a 1 month of work for example you need to understand that long term if

00:05:30: you want it you have to hustle and then long term you're going to get what you

00:05:34: want yeah that's it I think it's it's been like 3 years things since I

00:05:41: finished high school and I've been working harder even shifting my focus

00:05:45: only to the things I liked because now I'm more free you know so yeah why do

00:05:51: you think it's important to shift your focus on things you like I honestly

00:05:56: believe that our time here is limited not in the depressive way of saying that

00:06:01: but just in the realistic way your time is limited you never know what's gonna

00:06:06: happen honestly yeah your life can end it's

00:06:10: random moments you don't really know hopefully and I really believe that it

00:06:15: won't end soon but it's it's random that's it you know anything can happen

00:06:21: and this way I think that every moment should be used to the max and it doesn't

00:06:25: mean doing only positive things you really want to do right now but it means

00:06:29: that you should have a plan that benefits you in the long term so if I

00:06:33: think like I wanna I want my job to be something

00:06:36: that I love I'd have to start working now in things that that are going to

00:06:39: profit me in the future you know this is why I'm doing Street workout but not

00:06:43: only when I feel like it but I have my schedule that is planned and then in the

00:06:48: long term I can also make it a job and I can explain this to other areas and make

00:06:53: profits so you have to sacrifice long term like

00:06:58: you have to sacrifice short term gb have become successful

00:07:02: yeah but the long term should be something that you want to do you know

00:07:06: short term might be things that you don't really want to do right now

00:07:09: impulsively but long term it should be you should do the choices that you want

00:07:14: to do like things that you want to do and things that you love you know I

00:07:17: wouldn't for example a bad example would be to choose a career that you know that

00:07:23: will give you money long term but you know that it's something that you just

00:07:27: don't like doing you're not passionate about this is a in my opinion bed long

00:07:31: term goal I understand that's true may I ask you what what's your biggest goal in

00:07:38: life so I honestly don't have an ultimate goal yet I wear that and I'm I

00:07:45: think the fact that I'm aware that makes me feel comfortable with that but I have

00:07:50: some mid term like not very long but the furies ahead goals I have okay one of my

00:07:58: biggest goal right now is just to grow as an athlete it's not a very specific

00:08:02: goal but I'm doing everything I can to grow it means going to competition

00:08:06: abroad even if it's just like I can do one like two weekends in a row of

00:08:10: competitions and that's pretty hard mentally and physically but I will do it

00:08:14: because I want to be present in many places in the world as much as possible

00:08:18: to know to just be present as an athlete even if I win even if I lose and the

00:08:23: biggest goal above that is just to spread my words and my positivity and

00:08:30: really just spread love around the world specifically in the calisthenics scene

00:08:34: right now I'm doing that through my Instagram and I'm doing that physically

00:08:38: like and trying to eat every moment that I'm with new people abroad and

00:08:44: nationally so this is one of my biggest go right now I'm working every day to do

00:08:48: that and of course I'm not ashamed to say that I really want to make this a

00:08:53: profession that I can live off so I started doing kinetic rating because I

00:08:57: like it and I want to make money out of it I'm competing because there's also

00:09:00: many competitions I'm doing collaborations with with many companies

00:09:05: the one of the biggest are donation yeah that's nothing I'm doing as a goal you

00:09:13: know what is the thing that you think most that's holds back most of the

00:09:21: people in our generation from having a fulfilled life and reaching their goals

00:09:26: I I think there's more than one answer for that there is a few reasons when I

00:09:33: think about it right now I think one of the reasons that make people right now

00:09:38: not achieve their goals is because big goals in my opinion are long-term you

00:09:42: can feel you can be really lucky and get what you want very fast but usually if

00:09:47: you want to be 100 percent sure that you're going to get what you want you're

00:09:51: gonna have to work long term it's not gotta be impulsive again and I think

00:09:56: that our generation really needs everything fast as soon as possible

00:10:00: you wanna see someone you can open Instagram in five minutes see a hundred

00:10:05: pictures of them like a few years ago a few years like maybe I don't know 50

00:10:09: years ago you want to see someone you had to wait a week to see them just to

00:10:12: see them you know and just an example so if you change your mindset from

00:10:17: short-term to long-term and you actually understand that you have to put in work

00:10:22: and you're not going to like it most of the way if you're if you're dedicated

00:10:27: and passionate about this process you're gonna have your goals in my opinion and

00:10:31: I think that most people just don't have this mindset these days that's true like

00:10:38: that's an important thing to be patient and I think you are also a big fan of

00:10:45: Gary Vee Gary Vaynerchuk and yeah I appreciate like a lot of his words as

00:10:52: well and I know that you do as well yeah so yeah that's

00:10:56: that's really really true but do you feel pressure when you go after your

00:11:02: goals yeah there is always pressure I'm not always chill but I think that if

00:11:09: you're again aware of that and you look at it from the outside and understand

00:11:13: it's part of the process you're going through it's not gonna be perfect you're

00:11:16: gonna be stressed you're gonna be depressed you're gonna be very very

00:11:20: happy we're gonna be very very sad Sundays and everything is part of the

00:11:24: process when you look at it from the outside when I do that it makes me come

00:11:28: from the really inside of me and even if my body feels stressed and my managed my

00:11:33: mind says I have to do 1 million stuff right now I won't make it from the

00:11:37: inside of me I understand this part of the process and everything is going to

00:11:42: be okay and I'm going long-term and I can always try again until I die so that

00:11:47: makes me calm okay what do you think is the what are the secrets to become a

00:11:56: professional calisthenics athlete especially free so okay so honestly the

00:12:03: the interesting thing is I don't think there's a secret I think the answers are

00:12:08: in front of everybody they just don't really look at it you know they choose

00:12:14: to ignore it maybe in the back of their mind maybe it's not an active choice but

00:12:18: most people just ignore it you know there's this quote hard work

00:12:22: bit standards everything it sounds like a cliche but if you actually try to

00:12:26: apply that on your own life from your own perspective and not as an instrument

00:12:30: post you understand that it's very very true if you're gonna write down what you

00:12:35: want to do what you want to achieve then make that a plan and actually go after

00:12:39: this plan even when it doesn't feel comfortable and even when it when you

00:12:43: feel like you don't want to do it long term you're going to again achieve your

00:12:46: goal and I think that is something that people know because they hear it always

00:12:50: but they don't really really try to implement this in their own specific

00:12:54: lives you know so yeah this is general but if you're asking about calisthenics

00:13:02: specifically I think one of the advantages and the disadvantages

00:13:06: together of calisthenics is that the sport is not it's pretty new

00:13:11: so it's not very very organized and there aren't the rules about the sport

00:13:15: not only competitions in general are not very very precise there isn't there's no

00:13:21: specific place that you know you can read everything about the sports how to

00:13:24: do stuff what's right what's wrong there's a lot of stuff and this is one

00:13:28: advantage in my opinion because it makes the community very active and you know

00:13:32: diverse it's nice but it's also hard to you know get to a very high level

00:13:37: because you're always not sure how to do stuff and I struggling we did with that

00:13:41: a lot until today even when I trying to do new stuff

00:13:46: I was actually for example the first guy to do a 360 in Israel first one to do a

00:13:50: 540 the second one to do a stream flip the first one to do a ganger the first

00:13:56: one to do an alley-oop because and this this was one of my

00:13:58: struggles because I didn't know how to do stuff and some of them I didn't do

00:14:02: rights in the beginning until now I'm fixing everything always and this is

00:14:07: one of the struggles but I think the solution for that is just to be truly

00:14:11: again dedicated and understand that you hope you will have to try a lot of time

00:14:16: until you get something because you don't have a trainer and you're getting

00:14:20: 200 advices from different people you're gonna have to try yourself to activate

00:14:26: your mind and to actually think about the stuff you have to be active and not

00:14:29: passive and this is how you can actually get stuff because the biggest at least I

00:14:35: can tell you for sure they have no secret they just worked a lot on what

00:14:39: they were doing they tried to do an alley-oop and they failed and then they

00:14:43: said okay what did I do wrong here do a bit more swing they literally just

00:14:47: thinking about what they are doing not waiting for someone to tell them what to

00:14:51: do they were leading their own way because in this sport this is in my

00:14:56: opinion the kind of people that win but you can be this kind of person if you

00:15:01: just if you are just deciding to be one of them you're gonna have to lead your

00:15:05: own way because right now there is no one trainer that is right always and

00:15:11: there's no one way to go and there are different ways to do everything so

00:15:13: you're just gonna have to find your own way and push really hard to get there if

00:15:17: that makes sense to you it does definitely mostly again it's some like a

00:15:24: cliche but it's still just how it work you have to go out to the bars and you

00:15:27: have to do what we have to plan what you want to do don't have to be like a 10

00:15:31: pages plan rights can be a note in your iphone with five sentences but you have

00:15:35: to know what you're going to do and then just write and not just try blindly try

00:15:40: one time try 10 times and then reflect see what you did wrong try to ask

00:15:44: different people try to implement different stuff to see what works for

00:15:46: you always reflect yourself always always always I take 200 videos a week

00:15:51: of me training I upload maybe one or two of them every training but I take them

00:15:56: not for the Instagram but firstly for me to reflect when you see sitting at home

00:16:00: when I'm just even before I go to bed when I have these soft thoughts I can

00:16:06: open my iPhone and look what I did maybe have some nerdy ideas for how to

00:16:10: do stuff better this is how I make myself better I can say I'm the best I

00:16:16: can say I'm not the best in the field in terms of how they judge fists eye right

00:16:20: now but I know that my method of doing stuff is the best for me and this

00:16:25: working what's important because you always want to be do the best things

00:16:29: that are best for you again it's a cliche but you want to be the best

00:16:31: version of you and to that you're gonna have to have to have your own path of

00:16:34: doing stuff if you're gonna take something that a path that other person

00:16:39: gave you it's not gonna be perfect for you and you won't be able to maximize

00:16:42: the potential that way so you're gonna have to do it yourself and this is

00:16:45: what's hard for most people in my opinion to actually understand that they

00:16:48: have to do stuff from their own perspective not from how other person

00:16:52: says it not from how a quote from Instagram is because someone else a

00:16:56: human wrote this you know this how they see things you're gonna have to take

00:17:00: this take only the content of it and implement this for your own eyes and

00:17:04: this is how you really can go further in my opinion oh yeah I really like the

00:17:11: idea about reflecting and video watching and analyzing the videos that you took

00:17:16: from your workout so do you have other hacks tips advice that people can

00:17:22: implement in their workout to become better wear

00:17:27: say definitely that video like shooting yourself is one of the best things I I

00:17:34: ever chosen to do in my trainings even if there's no one to take my video for

00:17:39: me I would just ask we just put my phone somewhere and take it for me I'm really

00:17:43: going on the pretty extreme with that I really going at the bar without the

00:17:46: camera because I really want I really have to know how I look from

00:17:50: the outside because when you're competing the dead matter what you see

00:17:53: from your eyes it only matters what other people see but specifically the

00:17:57: judges see and for me what's really important is how the crowd sees me in

00:18:00: the fans especially so I would always take the videos so I'm very very aware

00:18:05: of how I look like from the outside and when you do that long term you're gonna

00:18:08: be more aware of your body in general you can do stuff with all the crime and

00:18:12: know about how it looks like if you activate this muscle oh it looks like on

00:18:15: camera and from the outside so this is something that I again really recommend

00:18:20: doing because you're gonna be able to get better faster because this is the

00:18:25: only thing that matters the outside and it sounds may be stupid or shallow but

00:18:30: the camera is a very very important thing in that matter I would also say

00:18:35: that if you want to be professional athlete and I the focuses on the world

00:18:40: athletes because I see a lot of street workout people just work out and I

00:18:45: appreciate them but when I see an athlete it's different they don't have

00:18:48: to be the best they don't have to have the craziest tricks but they do have to

00:18:51: have the lifestyle of an athlete it means you don't have to eat LC all the

00:18:56: time but you have to be aware of where if your choice is to eat healthy or not

00:19:00: you understand if you're going to McDonald's and you don't care if it's

00:19:03: healthy or not that's that's a problem an athlete can go to McDonald's three

00:19:07: times a week if he chooses that this is the right path for him as an athlete

00:19:10: because maybe it's doing a cheat week maybe is he ate healthy for one year

00:19:15: maybe he knows that he has other things that you need to focus on on his life

00:19:19: and he's just not free to has no free energy tools for choosing the food but

00:19:24: an athlete in my opinion would be aware of that and athlete would have a plan of

00:19:28: trainings and not just go on the bus to play and maybe sometimes do a ganker

00:19:32: because he just tried 1,000 times for playing you know that's the difference

00:19:36: between an athlete professional athlete and just to guide the street workout and

00:19:40: I appreciate this some people don't want it to be

00:19:43: professional you know it's nice it's a nice hobby if you want to be

00:19:46: professional you're gonna have to have the mindset of an athlete and the

00:19:50: lifestyle of an athlete and again it doesn't have to be you have to be

00:19:53: extremely healthy all the time but you have to be aware of everything

00:19:56: that's my opinion this what makes an athlete professional in my opinion and

00:20:00: an athlete and a regular person that does fit work up which is also very nice

00:20:04: but just not enough lead professional athletes in my opinion okay and when you

00:20:10: talk about the professional mindset or the mindset of a person a professional

00:20:14: athlete for example with I think about a freestyle competition and I'm about to

00:20:20: go there to go out there the people are watching me filming me cetera how do you

00:20:24: handle the pressure how does the professional athlete handle the pressure

00:20:27: so I can talk for myself because different people are different some

00:20:32: people are very natural with cameras from the beginning very natural with

00:20:35: people admiring them or contacted conducting them frequently and saying

00:20:40: you're awesome yeah I don't know you're a nice person you're crazy at it but me

00:20:46: personally I wasn't really very natural in the beginning with that I was okay I

00:20:51: wouldn't extremely good or extremely bad it was just okay with cameras and with

00:20:55: people when I went on the first world championship stage which was also only

00:20:59: my third competition ever in Moscow watch a mashup 2016 I had so many

00:21:04: cameras and people watching me and like and all of the like the fun of me was

00:21:10: just everyone in Moscow in my head right watching me all of the Russian people

00:21:14: that like see work out it was a huge really big stage and huge crowd and then

00:21:19: on my left were all of the crazy athletes in the world sitting on the

00:21:23: bench of the athletes looking at me I was so overwhelmed and I blacked out

00:21:27: completely I tried to do a shrimp flip once I failed it try it again failed it

00:21:31: again then I just fucked up my whole combo you can cancer that if you want

00:21:37: and it was just like too much for me all of this for the first time and I just

00:21:43: like messed up you know when I reflect again about this I'm very

00:21:47: glad it happened because I learned so much I always

00:21:51: always always mention this when people ask me for an advice for competing

00:21:54: always mentioned this because I think this is where totally

00:21:57: understood that if you want to be good at competitions if you want to be good

00:22:01: with crowds if you want to be good look good on camera you have to just really

00:22:05: repeat this experience and just compete a lot because not only compete but

00:22:11: getting the mindset of competition even when you're training to invite I will

00:22:15: much spend as you came to training before a competition to have them shout

00:22:19: for you to have people recall you from different angles to really just imagine

00:22:25: that you're in a competition right now when I prepare my friends for

00:22:28: competitions because we have some artists now that are going from Israel

00:22:31: bode I always the the most popular things I shout when they're on the bars

00:22:35: that you're in a competition right now you're in a competition everyone is

00:22:38: looking in the competition this makes them stressed and when you're getting

00:22:42: used to distress when you're training and when you're competing as much as you

00:22:46: can at some point you're gonna just feel comfortable competition so this I can

00:22:51: proudly say that this is around where I am right now

00:22:54: I go to competition I stressed in a very good level not more than that I'm very

00:22:59: very happy about the crowd I'm so happy about the fans seeing me I really feel

00:23:03: so happy not stressed because in the past I just didn't care about how many

00:23:07: people it was I just felt so stressed and I didn't want it to to happen you

00:23:10: know because I just feel bad but now I just feel good I'm really happy that

00:23:14: many people see me in the last Nationals in Israel so many people came and I felt

00:23:19: like I'm so happy that I can invest so many of my people was in the middle of

00:23:23: the port of Tel Aviv Maine it wouldn't no no don't know the spot where there

00:23:26: and I was so happy because I just felt comfortable with the cameras and with

00:23:29: the people again just because I experienced it a lot you know also in my

00:23:33: mind and also physically so this is just something you need to have experience

00:23:38: with and it's not something that you have to be passive about it's not just

00:23:42: waiting for you for people to invite you to competition it's doing that every

00:23:46: time like before if we were praying for completion before the competition and if

00:23:50: I'm not competing you don't have the opportunity just to it in your trainings

00:23:52: once a month invite a lot of friends as many as you can even if it's 3/8 as many

00:23:57: as you can have a big session get the cameras out get loud music as in a

00:24:02: competition do it in a public place even if you can so people are coming and just

00:24:07: try to make yourself it's pressures as you can so we just get

00:24:11: used to it because it's possible to get used to it this how I got used to it and

00:24:15: now I'm really communicating with my fans and with the crowd this is the I

00:24:20: can also say that right now the biggest reason I'm going to competitions is not

00:24:25: to win I like winning I like competing I really like competing but my first

00:24:29: reason is just that I can have a show that I can really perform that I can

00:24:34: pass emotions to the crowd in different areas of the world in Hong Kong right

00:24:40: now it was pretty crazy I had a very different crowd as you can imagine than

00:24:44: what I'm used to and I felt like they're really understanding what I'm trying to

00:24:48: give and really being God getting in my flow with me and that was amazing so

00:24:53: yeah nice I would like to go a little deeper into the moment where you failed

00:25:00: the shrimp flip twice how did you feel Wow so when I go when I got on the stage

00:25:09: I was trying to you know go over my cone real quick and the only thing he was in

00:25:13: my mind was totally black really just a total blackout I didn't know what I need

00:25:18: to do I only knew I had to do shrimp flip I want to do shrimpy 540 for

00:25:22: example I didn't even think about the 540 I just knew I had to do a flip I

00:25:25: will think about it too much and I was also thinking about all of all of the

00:25:30: people and I didn't think about what each of them think but I knew that each

00:25:35: one of these people think different stuff about me right now and every one

00:25:40: of them seemed in 1,000 ifferent perspectives and this is not the right

00:25:44: way to think about this stuff yeah you're gonna really have to zone out and

00:25:47: focus on yourself to really go through this experience successfully and I was

00:25:52: doing the complete opposite because I had no experience so I was thinking

00:25:55: each of them be thinking about me something else the crazy athletes are

00:25:58: judging me right now they've never seen him in real life in action this is the

00:26:01: moment I have to prove myself I met I'm a fan of all of them and

00:26:04: they're just talking with me now expecting the I was so stressed that I

00:26:08: was just I was doing the stream flip I thought this is the moment I failed I

00:26:12: said okay I can just keep going okay I went again I failed again this time I

00:26:17: just got it here and then slipped here and slipped again

00:26:21: and this is where I started from very very stressed and energized going down

00:26:26: pretty fast I was laying the combo I didn't hold anything I think I did it to

00:26:31: 60 or something then I went to the P bars I did like a bit better thing but

00:26:37: not that good then what happened and then I just went off of the p-bars I did

00:26:43: this and went off the stage and this is something I would never never never do

00:26:47: today never I would never just end my performance with a said face doing this

00:26:52: never I would even if I'm gonna feel hard I'm gonna I'm gonna maybe like say

00:26:57: thank you everyone I love you guys thank you for being with me you know with my

00:27:01: signatures I'm not gonna say it but I'm gonna say thank you to everyone I love

00:27:05: you it's okay people fail and I'm gonna go off the stage with a nice smile you

00:27:10: know and because I feel like when I'm on stage I can influence people you know

00:27:15: when everyone is looking at me I have the time maybe it's two minutes but I

00:27:19: have the time to influence people because all of their attention is at me

00:27:22: and it's not something that is happening daily so how I handle the experience on

00:27:28: stage is how they're going to be influenced you know if they see

00:27:31: professional athletes for the first time Street workout the same feeling and

00:27:35: doing that just they're gonna be influenced might be good might be a bad

00:27:40: difference but I if I can control time doing I'm gonna do the best to show them

00:27:43: that it's okay to fail we're professional athletes we face sometimes

00:27:46: the sport is very crazy and special we fail it's okay we have to like mentally

00:27:53: know how to handle this because mentally we can control it physically sometimes

00:27:56: things happen but mentally you can choose how you are going to handle

00:28:00: experiences like that so I freaked out totally and this is how I learned how to

00:28:05: not do it just because of this and very happy it happened there's actually a

00:28:11: nice story about that I can tell it 2016 I failed twice the shrimp I didn't go to

00:28:16: the finals the semifinals and finals then 2017

00:28:20: I trained for one year straight I actually got the first place again I

00:28:24: went to Moscow again I did the semi-finals I failed the shrimp flip the

00:28:28: first time I started again with the stream flipped that was a crazy crazy

00:28:31: risk and then 20 like 27 I did feel unsafe a second time I did it

00:28:38: I caught it and the data 540 and this was a crazy moment for me because after

00:28:41: one year of like work after failing and my eyes was in front of the whole world

00:28:47: I tried the shrimp twice and I caught it the second time I was so happy I made it

00:28:51: to the finals and I failed in the finance I had a little fail actually a

00:28:55: stupid one but I didn't I got like I think 26th place no 18 sorry which is

00:29:01: not that good but it's a lot better than what I got before right then I got 2020

00:29:07: 18 I got there again this was a bit of luck because I didn't took the first

00:29:10: place in Israel I took the third but the first and second place couldn't go so I

00:29:14: went again and this and this one I did finally semi-finals perfectly

00:29:21: semi-finals almost perfectly and got the fifth place yeah that was crazy and then

00:29:30: 2019 again I did the first round good second one good and got fifth again in

00:29:38: my category so it was really a process of four years and this is again when I'm

00:29:43: talking about long-term this is what I'm talking about you know first of all

00:29:46: championship failed okay I'm gonna go there again next year I'm gonna work out

00:29:49: one year and one it is a lot you know some days you don't want to train and

00:29:54: some days you really want to train and you have to keep going no matter what

00:29:58: and this how I got where I am now I've like a really inspiring story I know the

00:30:05: video that you made an interim from this stuff but it's awesome to hear it

00:30:10: personally from you thanks for sharing

00:30:16: like I have one a little bit provocative question why don't you just settle for a

00:30:23: normal life I don't find provocative I think there it's a very legit question

00:30:30: me personally if I have a problem with the term normal because I don't believe

00:30:36: there's anything normal I we really believe that every human is unique even

00:30:41: if some people look like they are normal it's just because this has been deeper

00:30:45: but it's just because society decided that

00:30:47: stuff are normal you know we could be in a different society when different

00:30:52: things are normal and you're gonna be the normal I'm gonna be the normal one

00:30:55: because everyone is hard-working and everyone is doing sports and everyone is

00:30:58: doing fists tight and then the guy who sits behind the desk and that's

00:31:02: programming all day he's very unique no one does it you know so I don't like it

00:31:06: what normal but I think that when you ask it you you ask why I mean just not

00:31:11: sitting for you know getting a job like most of you what I were doing and that

00:31:17: it might not like but it's going to get to get me enough money to live and not

00:31:21: really pursue my dreams is that what you're asking

00:31:26: yes so this goes back to what I was asking before what I was saying before

00:31:31: when I EVD and I stay walking a lot when I really understood that my life is

00:31:37: limited because our life is pretty long we don't really understand that it's

00:31:42: it's actually limited you don't you can do nothing about it doesn't matter what

00:31:47: you try to do it's limited and it's gonna end at one point and that place

00:31:54: when you get to it you can either understand that it's depressing and you

00:31:58: can do nothing and you're gonna die anyways so what's the point but you can

00:32:01: also have the choice to go the other way and say my time is limited that's life

00:32:06: is natural it's actually pretty beautiful in my opinion because it gives

00:32:09: value to your life if it was unlimited it would be it was a it would have no

00:32:14: value in my opinion and then you have your time your limited time you see it

00:32:18: and you just choose what you want to do with it and when you truly understand

00:32:21: that I think all of the people or yeah all of them would want to use it to the

00:32:25: max and this is why you can cynically ask you a question

00:32:29: you can a person can cynically say if it was my last day I would do that if it

00:32:35: was my last day on earth I would do that but you know because many people if it

00:32:39: was the last day of on earth for them they would do a lot of things they

00:32:42: wouldn't do if like because they know it's not their last day but they don't

00:32:47: really know it you know so when you understand that you have more motivation

00:32:51: to do these things and you just understand that there is no time for

00:32:54: bullshit and for letting people influence you because only you matter

00:32:58: only ometer on

00:33:00: for me on the ID meter for you on the ohmmeter I mean in terms of patience and

00:33:04: what you want to do of course other people matter and you have to take care

00:33:07: of them family of course is very important and friends and the people

00:33:10: around you but I mean you're willing and it's only what matters for you you know

00:33:15: other people can tell you what you need to do what you want to do and when you

00:33:18: understand that and that you have no time to waste you're gonna just use your

00:33:22: time to the potential and this is where people define you is pursuing your

00:33:27: dreams at that point in my opinion it can be 1012 million different things for

00:33:32: each of us but when you choose to do what you want to do because you

00:33:36: understand you have no reason to do other things that people want you to do

00:33:40: then you're putting your dreams and this is what at the point I am right now

00:33:46: if this wasn't too complicated sentence because it sounded to get it's all good

00:33:51: I think people will understand well ok so yeah thank you for sharing this I

00:34:01: have one question for you what is the thing that you would tell your 10 year

00:34:07: old self you know if he would just stand stand here this is a question that is so

00:34:13: hard well like maybe the hardest question I can get in these type of

00:34:17: questions but I think about these questions sometimes because this is

00:34:22: again one of the questions they really don't have an answer to it change my

00:34:26: answer changes you know for that but the thing that I always always want to say

00:34:32: to myself when I reflect is that even when they thought it's everything is not

00:34:37: gonna be ok it turned up ok not because of like

00:34:41: mysterious luck because I know how to handle things and sometimes when I'm in

00:34:45: an extreme situation I just don't feel that because I'm stressed but at the end

00:34:51: always it turns out good maybe not one day after maybe one not one week but

00:34:57: long term I find my way because my mind is set to the right place and then

00:35:02: physically I just go there you know with time so if I was if I was to hit if I

00:35:09: were to meet my turn Donald 10 years old me

00:35:13: now I would say to him that just don't worry it's gonna be fine

00:35:18: and when I say don't worry I don't mean just sit and don't do anything you're

00:35:22: gonna get to what you want that's not true you're gonna have to work hard but

00:35:26: when you have this doubt about yourself don't don't just don't listen to it

00:35:30: because it's purely wrong that's what I would say yeah because I can say that

00:35:36: personally I doubt myself a lot I'm not ashamed of it I think it's natural and

00:35:40: for me it happens a lot but one of the things that I recently in the past year

00:35:46: learned is that it's just a voice in my head it's not me it's just a voice it's

00:35:51: natural it's okay I should accept the existence of it but I just shouldn't

00:35:56: accept the content of it because the only thing I can truly control and I'm

00:36:02: fully free is in my mind I can't control what's happening around me I can do that

00:36:07: I can't control that other people think of me but I can control what's here in

00:36:12: inside and this is and this is why I can't let the doubt in my mind control

00:36:17: me you know because it's not it's not you your doctor not you they're just

00:36:23: natural thoughts that come to your mind because of things that you've been

00:36:28: through because if your environment but it's not you and once you understand

00:36:31: that it's it's a lot easier to go it's a lot easier mentally to go through what

00:36:36: you want to do so this is what I would say I would just say don't worry it's

00:36:41: gonna be all right you're gonna have to work hard if you want to get what you

00:36:44: want to get it's not gonna be easy but you just don't worry it's gonna be okay

00:36:50: yeah Wow well okay that was like a lot of content a lot of deep questions deep

00:37:03: answers I would like to end this with a few short questions with a short answer

00:37:09: like in one or two questions mmm one thing you can't live without that's

00:37:17: pretty easy for me there's gonna be my dog for sure

00:37:22: I really I don't know like my life is changed when I got him and I really know

00:37:27: that I just can't it would be very extremely hard for me to live without

00:37:33: him I paying well getting a tattoo of him because unfortunately like my life

00:37:39: his life are not unlimited and unfortunately the dog's life is

00:37:43: shorter than a human's life but I know that in my heart is going to stay always

00:37:48: with me and I actually really miss him right now and everything for like three

00:37:51: days only that's the answer it's gonna be what felt Wow okay your favorite

00:38:01: workout spot in the world oh wow well I've actually been to many places

00:38:06: but I think I'm gonna probably say that it's gonna be the beach in Tel Aviv and

00:38:13: it's not because of the bars not at all it's because of the vibes for sure I

00:38:19: really I wasn't crazy places and I really like training in amazing places

00:38:24: with amazing people and it's really hard to say that they're like not like there

00:38:29: and under this because they are not they're just different stuff but my

00:38:33: favorite would be my homeland with the people that I'm the most connected with

00:38:40: in terms of what we've been through I understand and also just I think that

00:38:45: nothing can top the beach in Israel honestly if you haven't been there you

00:38:49: can't really understand it but it's just a different feeling there and right now

00:38:52: it's my favorite yeah also the bars are really nice although

00:38:56: we broke them twice there's really nice awesome what is your favorite move well

00:39:05: that's an easy but hard question because that was easy that would it be easy the

00:39:11: big anger of course but on the other hand I have a lot of other moves that I

00:39:16: really like I think my favorite movies the anger but not because it's a big

00:39:21: freaking big flippin 180 it's just because the journey I had to go through

00:39:24: to learn to learn it it was the hardest move I had to learn ever and to control

00:39:29: it it took me like two years plus twelve control and it's it's something that

00:39:34: after you work so hard for after you I nailed it first

00:39:38: time then I'm then I lost it five times yeah really it's it's a long journey and

00:39:45: after you go through all of that with with an element together this is where

00:39:51: the connection is pretty strong so for me I like the Ganga and also it's really

00:39:55: nice because I took it to the extreme you know to do multiple gangers

00:39:58: something that I haven't seen anyone doing that extreme before me now people

00:40:02: are doing eight and nine and it's really nice and it's challenging but I feel

00:40:06: like I actually made a bit of history with that move and this way I like it

00:40:11: more even nice what was your biggest Idol when you started to work out so I'm

00:40:20: gonna I'm gonna say that I'm not really I'm not a fan of the word Idol or sigh I

00:40:27: wasn't really a fan of anyone because for me I just see the things in a bit

00:40:32: different way I'm not a fan of someone just because I think he's a god or

00:40:36: because I think he's invincible I really admire someone because I

00:40:41: appreciate and respect the work and the way they they've been through and the

00:40:46: harder I work the more I appreciate these people in telemeter world I where

00:40:51: they are relative to me I just respect hard workers just because I know how it

00:40:57: feels and what they had to go through and at least the part that I know and

00:41:02: there's also always part that I don't even know about that is hard of course

00:41:06: so if I see someone that is very successful I appreciate their work and I

00:41:12: respect them more than admire an idol but the people are respected and

00:41:16: appreciated the most when I started were were probably in the very beginning I

00:41:22: think for others or bar stars I don't know and then when I got into freestyle

00:41:26: more like professionally it was Daniels Dennis Lyons for sure he was one of my

00:41:34: biggest idols and it wasn't because of his tricks it was again because he

00:41:38: delivered a different different perspective for that he really I feel

00:41:44: like he put himself his personality is emotions into the sport star

00:41:49: from how he dresses and ends on the technique he's doing stuff which is

00:41:53: different and this is where I really understood that I'm gonna take this

00:41:58: sport my way and not trying to mimic anyone and this is something that I feel

00:42:03: like also resembles me if you look at me from the outside in the calisthenics

00:42:08: scene I'm trying to do things in a creative different my way and yeah this

00:42:13: is what I really respected and loved Daniel's when I started and now is a

00:42:18: really good friend of mine which is so awesome as well awesome

00:42:23: that's how life changes yeah it's amazing I would never imagine we would

00:42:27: be such good friends when I just looked like that in the beginning yeah but I

00:42:32: also experienced when you look like that to people you will never like get really

00:42:36: close to virtual because it will always be like a weird situation nobody but

00:42:43: everybody wants like a friend and they also just people and that's why when you

00:42:48: are on the same level and you feel yourself on the lane same look I don't

00:42:51: think it's about the same level of sports though no not sports but like

00:42:56: human like you oh yeah just we're we're both humans we just sit here and talk

00:43:02: yeah although I do believe that you have to have like basic respect to someone

00:43:08: not because they're crazy athletes this is your choice you can respect or not

00:43:12: but just because you don't know them and when I go to usually when they go to

00:43:16: countries and new people see me they're very spectral it is something I really

00:43:20: really like about the calisthenics community I feel like people are very

00:43:23: aware of that but sometimes they are not even even if I in my home country in

00:43:27: Israel people are warmer so they can be more rude and this is something that I

00:43:31: believe that people should although we are all humans should keep in mind

00:43:35: because we're all humans again and on the other hand you're gonna have to

00:43:41: respect people the same way because everyone is a basic respect you know

00:43:45: that's wrong if I can ask you one last question what would you tell the viewers

00:43:51: what can they take from your experience from your life what do you want to tell

00:43:58: them

00:44:01: and that's a hard question because they have a lot of stuff yeah so if you're

00:44:07: listening right now to this podcast I'm gonna talk to you but so if anyone is to

00:44:14: anyone who's this thing right now I just want to say first of all that I really

00:44:17: appreciate that I really appreciate that you took the time to actually listen and

00:44:22: and hear what to not only here but listen to what I want to say and what I

00:44:27: have to say and and I'm really really really hoping that you took something

00:44:33: from it to your own life maybe it's not something that I said directly but you

00:44:39: just understood about yourself that would that like only knowing that there

00:44:44: is a possibility that happened makes me happy right now and if I have to finish

00:44:49: with something I would say I will just say please don't forget that a lot of

00:44:58: things for us are obvious in this life because this is nature of humans you

00:45:03: have to adjust you can always be surprised at everything that is

00:45:06: happening every moment because you're not gonna be able to live but there are

00:45:09: some things that you shouldn't take as granted first thing is your life in

00:45:14: general second thing is the family and the close people to you that love you

00:45:19: they might not be there whole your whole life so you should show them that you

00:45:24: appreciate them and love them because it's not it's not obvious that even one

00:45:29: person in life loves you as much as your family does and this is something that's

00:45:35: you should show them you should show them that you appreciate and love them

00:45:39: and for yourself don't forget that your life is not granted and obvious and you

00:45:47: have it right now if you're listening to this podcast you have your life right

00:45:50: now you should appreciate that and you should you should just take the steering

00:45:55: wheel of your life and take control control of it because no one else has

00:45:59: the no one else can take the steering wheel from you and has permission to

00:46:06: take it it's yours although many people are trying many people will try an hour

00:46:11: trying it's only yours and if you you can take it from them and you should

00:46:14: you should control your own life and if you want to do something it doesn't

00:46:17: matter what other people tell you as long as they are not trying to hurt

00:46:20: other people of course you should go for it because this is the time to start you

00:46:25: don't have you don't have the time your brain thinks you have that's it and of

00:46:31: course of course I will end it if you have any questions if you want to talk

00:46:35: to me about what I said if you want to ask me more stuff or talk to me about

00:46:39: what I said or I don't know just say anything to me I'm always happy to

00:46:44: listen and reading all of my dance as fast as I can because I have a lot of

00:46:48: stuff to do but I'm not ignoring anyone that is respectful to me and so feel

00:46:53: free to send me a DM on Instagram and or comment under this podcast or video and

00:46:58: it would mean a lot that's it basically thank you so much for listening everyone

00:47:03: and thank you so much field for having me

00:47:05: Thank You Deborah say that thank you for being here like it feels like I'm

00:47:10: feeling really really well like I always like like conversations with you because

00:47:15: it's really it gets deep you are like an honest and straightforward but still

00:47:19: loving and respectful guy so did you see how much that means about hearing that

00:47:24: you know I want to add any one more thing because I'm not sure like you

00:47:31: don't have to put it in but I I don't know how I look I trying to know but I

00:47:37: don't always know how I look from the outside as anyone you don't really know

00:47:40: how people get your image from the outside but I won't just want to say

00:47:44: I've a lot of insecurities a lot and I've had a lot of very bad periods in my

00:47:50: life in terms of mental mental health and it's something normal and if we're

00:47:55: having a time like that if you're feeling like like you're not good enough

00:47:58: if you're doubting yourself constantly if you're feeling insecure about

00:48:01: anything if you're feeling really bad constantly that's okay it really is okay

00:48:06: I'm not saying it is a cliche it is okay you're human you don't you know no one

00:48:11: of you really knows what's happening in other people's mind and I assure you

00:48:14: that it's not what you are so it is because everyone has their own story and

00:48:19: if you understand that you understand that you can't really know what's

00:48:21: happening are people and it doesn't matter what they reflect

00:48:24: outside so being not okay is okay don't try to take it easily and share with

00:48:31: people around you and yeah that's something very important for me to say

00:48:35: because I I probably look like a successful person on the outside and I

00:48:41: believe I am in some terms but I'm not perfect at all I have a lot of

00:48:45: insecurities and bad times and it's really okay and people should know that

00:48:51: oh thanks for sharing awesome so let's end it here thanks for watching if you

00:48:58: watch the YouTube video thanks for listening if you listen to the podcast

00:49:02: yeah thanks for being here then it was indeed a pleasure it's always a pleasure

00:49:07: with you thank you and happy to have you and yeah just enjoy your life think here

00:49:13: you can make a lot out of this podcast of this thing and yeah keep growing

00:49:18: every day and thank you so much it really was a pleasure thank you for the

00:49:23: opportunity thanks okay bye guys see you